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Thursday, April 05, 2007

LOL live poker

Live Poker...

To quote Simon Cowell, "Absolutely dreadful."

haha...

Basically that sums it up. Since I've been running so poorly online, I decided to change things up with a trip to the local Harrah's here in Kansas City to play their 2-5 blind $500max NL game. As most of you know, a typical live player is much worse than a player at equal stakes online, and certainly my trip there was no different. There was only one, maybe 2 players who were totally spewing chips, but the rest of the table was entirely exploitable. Some mix between weak/loose and weak/tight in their preflop and postflop games. No one would ever stab at pots, bluff raise, etc. It was basically everyone limps in preflop and whoever flopped the best hand would bet, and someone else would call down if they had anything reasonable.

Instead of describing the entire experience again, I'm going to copy and paste my AIM conversation with my buddy Kyle, who actually prefers live poker to online. I don't hold it against him too much since he's my friend, but I do like sticking a few "lol live poker" barbs in every once in a while ;-)

[22:30] Kyle: so I am curious as to how the live play went
[22:30] WiltOnTilt: boring
[22:30] Kyle: They don't let you play 5 tables at a time?
[22:30] WiltOnTilt: all those donkeys play with their hands face up
[22:30] WiltOnTilt: so it's pretty easy
[22:30] Kyle: So you won a ton then
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: no
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: i won 150 or so
[22:31] Kyle: LOL welcome to my world
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: i was the only one who would bet without the nuts
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: ppl are so weak
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: they would get crushed in the games i play online
[22:31] Kyle: where did you go?
[22:31] WiltOnTilt: harrahs
[22:32] WiltOnTilt: there was one ultrafish
[22:32] WiltOnTilt: the rest were basically some variety of weak/loose or weak/tight
[22:32] Kyle: Even I had some good luck beating Harrahs NL
[22:32] WiltOnTilt: their hands are never good enough to bet with, but by golly they sure know how to call lol
[22:32] Kyle: oh lord yes...they won't bet, but have no problem calling off 100 - 300 at a time, at least was my experience
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: yep
[22:33] Kyle: unless they nutted you...then it was all in time
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: everyone thought i was totally nuts
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: i raised 4 out of my first 5 hands
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: and the groans were coming
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: one guy was like
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: "have you been getting hot cards or are you one of those players"
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: that was on my 3rd raise
[22:33] WiltOnTilt: i'm like
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: "well i guess you'll have to wait and see"
[22:34] Kyle: i just can't stomach to play there
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: haha
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: its so profitable but
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: jesus
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: so boring
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: i was definitely splashing around a lot
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: but get this
[22:34] Kyle: see, I am just an Ameristar guy
[22:34] WiltOnTilt: i was there for roughly 5 hours
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: in that time, aside from a short stack pushing all in, there was exactly ONE reraise preflop
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: ONE
[22:35] Kyle: AA?
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: the original raiser folded haha
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: just shows how awful they are
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: its like the two players were $600 deep or so
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: one guy opens to $25
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: the other guy makes it $50
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: the first guy folds
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: like
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: LOL
[22:35] WiltOnTilt: obviously, the reraiser has aces, or maybe kings
[22:36] WiltOnTilt: why are you folding ANYTHING for $25 more when you're so deep ???
[22:36] Kyle: of course
[22:36] WiltOnTilt: ppl just dont understand how NL hold'em works
[22:36] Kyle: give them a break...few people obsess as much as you about it...they just don't know
[22:36] WiltOnTilt: yea i know
[22:36] WiltOnTilt: but its just so funny
[22:38] Kyle: You would probably have to say the same stuff about the way I play I am sure
[22:38] WiltOnTilt: well if you play that way in NL i might! lol
[22:38] Kyle: every poker decision I have to make, I always try to think about what aaron wilt would do
[22:38] WiltOnTilt: lol yea right
[22:38] WiltOnTilt: but if you did, that would be cool!
[22:39] WiltOnTilt: i had one hand i misplayed
[22:39] Kyle: don't flatter yourself
[22:39] WiltOnTilt: it was like my 7th hand at the table, i had raised 4 or 5 hands previously, had KJs in mid/late position. couple ppl limped in, i thought about raising, but decided to limp
[22:40] WiltOnTilt: some clown in a cabella's hat limped after me, i'd seen him before, from what i remembered he was tight/cally, but it had been 8 months or so
[22:40] WiltOnTilt: blinds come along
[22:40] WiltOnTilt: flop Ah Kh Jd
[22:40] WiltOnTilt: prob about $40 in the pot
[22:41] WiltOnTilt: so one the blinds lead out for $25
[22:41] WiltOnTilt: gets to me i make it 130
[22:41] WiltOnTilt: guy who limped behind me cold calls
[22:41] WiltOnTilt: blind folds
[22:41] Kyle: lol
[22:41] WiltOnTilt: so turn is 5o
[22:42] WiltOnTilt: i decide that its better to control the size of the pot and check, because wtf is he cold calling me with.
[22:42] Kyle: QT
[22:42] WiltOnTilt: so the pot is like 300, he bets 175
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: ofc i dont think he has any idea of how much is in the pot
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: i call
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: here i should have folded
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: of course
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: but i didnt
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: so the river is another blank
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: i check he bets $250, and finally i'm like, well I guess it's AJ or QT
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: so i fold
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: he mucks
[22:43] Kyle: yeah, it had to be the nuts
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: i'm like what'd you have
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: he's like
[22:43] WiltOnTilt: a set
[22:44] Kyle: what?
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: i'm like no way, you don't raise JJ KK or AA preflop ?
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: i'm like its hard to have JJ or KK because only one combination of each hand out there
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: he's like
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: "i didnt have a set of jacks or kings"
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: then my head explodes
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: because it does not compute
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: lol
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: so i'm like ok nice hand
[22:44] WiltOnTilt: so then i was trying to figure out
[22:45] WiltOnTilt: ok, we know this guy is dumb -- no question there, so the question is, in what way is he dumb?
[22:45] WiltOnTilt: its either a) he's dumb because he overlimped in the CO with AA after 3 limpers
[22:45] WiltOnTilt: or its b) he's dumb because he thinks the way he played his hand is consistent with AA and therefore I folded KJ fearing AA
[22:45] WiltOnTilt: the jury is still out
[22:46] Kyle: that set story is hard to believe
[22:46] WiltOnTilt: agree
[22:46] WiltOnTilt: i think b) is much more likely
[22:46] WiltOnTilt: i dont think he's capable of bluffing something like Q9hh or that missed
[22:46] Kyle: Yeah, no way to ever know
[22:47] WiltOnTilt: so his final hand at the table, he limped utg with 77, a total donkey on the button raised it up, folds to the guy utg, and he was mulling over what to do
[22:47] WiltOnTilt: finally he said "i dont want to call because then my stacks of red wont be even, so i'll just muck"
[22:47] WiltOnTilt: loooooooooooooooool
[22:48] Kyle: Yeah, I have actually read about that in a book
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: oh really ??
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: does caro say something about that ?
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: he had like 1200 infront of him (somehow)
[22:48] Kyle: Oh yes, one author says to attack a guy who has put his chips in a rack because more than likely he won't want to break the rack if he is leaving, so you can force him out more easily
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: so i imagine a good chunk of it is profit
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: well they werent in a rack yet
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: but
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: i think he was ready to go
[22:48] WiltOnTilt: so same concept
[22:49] Kyle: Yeah, I see that a lot in limit games, of course. a lot of folks would rather fold than break the rack
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: haha
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: so awesome
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: live poker is just .... lol
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: theres no better way to describe it
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: than
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: l
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: o
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: l
[22:49] Kyle: Oh, you are a stuck up SOB, aren't you?
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: ahhahahaha
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: in this case, yes i am
[22:49] WiltOnTilt: i cant help myself
[22:50] Kyle: I hope your pride gets you someday
[22:50] WiltOnTilt: a day like today is exactly what i needed though
[22:50] WiltOnTilt: so i dont care about being prideful
[22:50] WiltOnTilt: just something to boost the confidence a bit
[22:52] Kyle: well don't let your hubris cause you to get spanked tonight online
[22:52] WiltOnTilt: i'll try not to
[22:53] Kyle: LOL
[22:53] WiltOnTilt: i prob will get spanked online
[22:53] WiltOnTilt: since thats been the name of the game for the past week
[22:54] WiltOnTilt: alright man i'm going to get in the shower (all smokey from the casino), and then put in a late session online tonight
[22:54] WiltOnTilt: so i'll holler at ya later
[22:55] Kyle: Uh huh...don't slip in the shower...Karma is a bitch
[22:55] WiltOnTilt: sorry i'm such a stuck up SOB when it comes to low stakes live poker
[22:55] Kyle: Don't apologize to me man
[22:55] WiltOnTilt: after all, i'm going there for entertainment value right ?
[22:56] Kyle: sounds like you were entertained
[22:56] WiltOnTilt: i was

Oh well, back to the online grind.
Aaron

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